Kerry Washington was told she was a "risk" to lead the cast of 'Scandal'

Speaking on the 'Reign with Josh Smith' podcast, she said: "When 'Scandal' first aired, everybody talked about it, literally talked about it as, 'a risk,' to

have a black woman as the lead of a network drama because it hadn't happened in almost 40 years.

"And I was in my 30s at the time, so it hadn't happened in my lifetime. And people didn't think it would work.

"So I was so proud that it worked, but also I wasn't proud of myself. I wasn't like, 'oh, I'm amazing.' I was like, audiences are amazing, right? Because audiences showed up.

"Audiences tuned in in record numbers to say, 'We want to see heroes that look like us.' And then a bunch of audience members tuned in to say, 'we want to see heroes that don't look like us. We're open to our heroes and our protagonists looking like everybody.'

"And so that's why the show worked."

Kerry believes 'Scandal' was able to make a real difference to the industry.

She said: "So I was really proud that we went from being a risk to being like a mandate at every television network.

"After that, everybody was like, what's our show with a woman of colour in the lead? And even at ABC, there were more shows with women of colour at the centre."

The 'Little Fires Everywhere' actress has learned a lot from the various projects she's worked on, and always tries to encourage a "creatively courageous" environment after a negative experience she had in the past.

She said: "I have been witness to leadership styles that I haven't wanted to embody and take on. I remember once coming to a rehearsal on a set and the lead actor of the project, I was standing with them and I said, 'um, you know, I was thinking,' and they said, 'Yeah, don't do that, don't think here, you're not here to think.'

"And I was so taken aback, because I thought, 'oh, aren't we here to be, creatively collaborative and, and help each other and throw ideas around.'

"So, I always try to create an environment where I feel like people, or I want to create an environment where people feel like they can be creatively courageous and take risks and bring new ideas and step into their own leadership... I want to empower them to be their full selves."

For the full episode of 'Reign with Josh Smith' featuring Kerry, visit http://hyperurl.co/i4yxt0.